“I don’t think anybody knows where these craft are from.” – Leslie Kean

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This morning I was way unmotivated, as if I’d sabotaged my day with carbohydrates in the morning. Rookie mistake, but that wasn’t it.

So I took my side-kick, Halo, down to the man cave, sat in the dark on my couch and did a YouTube search for Jay at Project Unity.

Glad I did.

Remember Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal, the two reporters who (with the Washington correspondent Helene Cooper) broke the major UFO stories in the NY Times back in 2017, and recently brought us the NY Times news that Eric Davis, PhD…

gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”

Here’s the first-ever interview with both these reporters, conducted by Jay, a brilliant young UFO experiencer who started Project Unity:

I thought the whole interview was full of fascinating details and cautious perspectives, but the following quote was the highlight for me (41:35 on the video)…

Leslie Keen: “I just want to comment further because you brought up the whole concept of aliens, Jay, right? I have a bit of a problem because people do tend to extrapolate. You know, like, people will pick up the story and have something in the headlines that says, you know, “The New York Times Says Aliens Have Crashed on Earth.” If that’s what you’re asking by your question, I just think, you know,  it’s very important not to take this beyond what we are actually reporting and what we actually know. And even if there are crashes that have been, that are being reverse-engineered, our sense is that they haven’t made a lot of progress with that reverse engineering. And I don’t think anybody knows much about where these craft are from, or all the questions that everybody has a desire to understand.”

Later, Jay follows up:

Jay: “…reverse-engineering. And you thought it was probably a long process without much success. And I was just wondering if that’s an opinion brought on by your research into the Admiral Wilson—Eric Davis notes.”

Leslee Kean: “You know, I probably shouldn’t have, you know, I don’t think I can expand on that anymore. It’s a sense that I have from sources I’ve spoken to. But I really don’t think I can say anything more about it, Jay. Sorry about that.”

I get the impression Leslie Kean almost said, “I probably shouldn’t have said that.”

Later Leslie had this to say about Dr. Eric W. Davis:

Leslie Kean: “I have tremendous – and so does Ralph – we have tremendous respect for Eric Davis. He’s a fantastic source. He’s been very cooperative with us and very, very helpful and forthcoming. And so we take our hat off to him.”

The following statement by Ralph Blumenthal also seemed significant to me (because Richard Dolan is my favorite UFO historian):

Ralph Blumenthal: “There are people who are very rigorous in their approach, like Rich Dolan… and you, Jay, who are very rigorous in their approach, and careful, and understand what the issues are….”

Three cheers for Dolan!

He did an interview with Jay here. Jay describes one (and a half?) of his UFO experiences for which he meditated, hoping to initiate contact with the phenomenon.

At the end of the interview, Dolan talks about something dear to my heart, the Christian concept of loving your enemies. As interested as I am in UFOs and Alien beings, I’m far more interested in learning how to love our enemies without being devoured by them.

Anyway, somewhere on Jay’s YouTube channel, he describes the meditation he used before his experiences. Jay says his meditation is simpler than Dr. Greer’s CE5 (close encounters of the fifth kind) meditation.

I’m a little jittery about all this. With my lengthy and abandoned background of fundamentalist Christianity, I can’t help being worried about “opening the door” to ethereal forces that the Church said were evil. But that’s my baggage. I’ll deal with it.

If UFOlogy is leading us all to love our enemies, you can count me in.

Love and courage,

Morrill Talmage Moorehead, MD

 

 

11 thoughts on ““I don’t think anybody knows where these craft are from.” – Leslie Kean”

  1. Gypsy Bev

    You know how much I enjoy these UFO reports. Love to think of all the possibilities that could be out there. Right now perhaps I’m a little in the paranormal realm as I feel that the UFOs and aliens are from somewhere out there in space – another galaxy, another world. They seem to have extraordinary powers of moving from place to place in the blink of an eye so that leaves distance issues no longer a problem. Their technology is far beyond what we presently have here on earth and I feel that most of our advancements came with their guidance. All the scientific minds I know disagree. Yes, I’m a little strange but you already knew that!

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    • M. Talmage Moorehead

      I’m with you on this. I’m 100% convinced that UFOs are real, and about 99.6% convinced that some UFOs are “not from this Earth.” My tiny doubt about ET aliens stems from 1. The possibility that they might be humans of a modern or ancient “breakaway” culture, 2. They might be time travelers from Earth’s distant but advanced past (not our future, since I’m not yet convinced that time travel into the past is possible), 3. The ET interpretation mgiht be part of an inconceivably complex disinformation campaign by something like the US shadow government, its corporate friends, or a breakaway human civilization (such as the Nazis who some claim to have escaped to Argentina or Antarctica with advanced technology after WWII). And of course, it’s always possible that those who believe UFOs are all demonic will be right, though I doubt they could be right about all UFOs, (if any). I would omit the demonic theory altogether, but I try not to let myself rule out strange possibilities simply because they’re distasteful and/or inconsistent with my worldview. The willingness to consider all possibilities, especially the “impossible” ones, is scientific, though it’s a largely abandoned aspect of science. A facade of skepticism (due to the desire to seem intellectually superior) seems to have replaced science’s inherent love of anomalies for most scientists today.

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  3. cadxx

    As someone who has been dipping into UFO lore since the seventies I find it interesting? (maybe not the right word) that things still don’t seem to go anywhere. The problem being IMHO is that most don’t want to believe it and prefer to attack it. You can’t get around that. A poster to my website sent me a trove of info on the history of the Secret Space Program only two days ago and I’m at a loss as to what to do with it. I’ve been following this lately and it seems to have gone quiet for whatever reason.
    In this context, “I don’t think anybody knows where these craft are from.” is a little lame especially from a researcher.

    Basically the story as I know it is that Project Paperclip Nazis started their own space project with US presidential backing and then broke away. They (and others apparently) have been travelling the cosmos ever since. They are well aware of the aliens (some good some bad) and where they come from. Several have since become whistle-blowers who tell their story on Youtube.

    Putting this in context with my own main subject of interest, electrical technology: electrical science and technology were suppressed and became part of the “market” sometime around 1900. The electrical technology we have today has ALL of its prototypes in this period. Included in the huge amount of work done was antigravity (JJ Thomson) and a kind of teleportation (Alexanderson) and much more. Most don’t know about this but the records and patents are still around if you search hard enough. The science and the experimental work were subsequently debunked in favour of Einstein and the electron, neither of which has provided any engineerable theories. I believe that this was exactly the desired outcome of the exercise. Hence we have dirty energy and pollution.

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    • M. Talmage Moorehead

      I really don’t know how far Project Paperclip’s Nazis went. I suspect they at least took over the CIA in the sense that they influenced the organization to act under the Darwinian morality dogma that survival of the fittest is humanity’s highest behavioral guide. The rest of the Nazi story, including Nazi anti-gravity craft and the Nazi escape to Antarctica (Operation Highjump, etc.) are beyond my ability to find convincing documentation at this point. I can’t rule them out, either. I’m dedicated to being neutral on such things, not a knee-jerk denier or an emotion-driven skeptic.

      I suspect that some sort of secret US space program exists, however, I get the impression that Corey Good is not a skilled liar, but a transparent one. I could be wrong about him. I often am wrong about such things. For instance, in the 90’s when I first heard Bob Lazar talk, I believed him, then I changed my mind after listening to the late Stanton Friedman run him down. Years later, after hearing Lazar’s recent documentary and all the corroborating evidence, I again came to believe that he’s been telling the truth all along.

      I suspect there is a “breakaway” tech group, probably a covert portion of one or more government contractors such as Lockheed Martin who has retro-engineered crashed alien vehicle(s) and used these “alien reproduction vehicles” to some extent in space travel. But the evidence I’ve seen isn’t quite strong enough for me to “know” with certainty that this is the case. I’d be surprised if it wasn’t, though.

      The intelligence community’s alleged behavior after Tesla’s death certainly makes it look as if advanced electrical technology was suppressed back in the day. I’d like to trust the historical record of those times, but I don’t have enough hours in a day to become a historian, so I’m always wondering exactly how much of those stories are true. For instance, I’ve always heard that JP Morgan withdrew funding from Tesla because Morgan couldn’t make money off free energy. And yet I came across this quote, allegedly from Tesla himself, “I would add further, in view of various rumors which have reached me, that Mr. J. Pierpont Morgan did not interest himself with me in a business way but in the same large spirit in which he has assisted many other pioneers. He carried out his generous promise to the letter and it would have been most unreasonable to expect from him anything more.”

      From the perspective of one acquainted with the UFO literature, it does sound a bit absurd to say, “I don’t think anybody knows where these craft are from.” Someone likely does, but unless that group of insiders is willing to go on the record and back up the claim with reproducible evidence that’s available for scientists to examine and report in peer-reviewed literature, it’s unlikely the skeptical public will listen. I think the public will have to be dragged against their will into any sort of disclosure that involves alien life. No amount of claims will convince them without hard evidence and a unanimous agreement among scientists.

      Complicating the issue too, these days, is the paranormal perspective that’s becoming a larger part of the UFO literature and culture. It’s starting to look as if some of the “aliens” might be from a dimension or an ethereal realm with which we are entirely unfamiliar. And at the same time, we have physicists now telling us that space-time is not fundamental, neither are subatomic particles. One of them is saying that he thinks consciousness is the basic building block of reality.

      Hey, thank you cadxx, for your thought-provoking comment.

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      • cadxx

        Hi and thanks for the reply.
        Tesla’s reply is correct in as much as he failed to tell J P Morgan what he was doing with his money. Having said that there was an unrecorded ban on aether-based electrical research that applied to all scientists. (There is at least one list of dissenters on my site) I suspect it was a threat of funding withdrawal just like that of Tesla.
        Note: There is no quantum electronics today.

        We see the same tactics deployed regarding UFOs. Back in the early days some scientists took-on the UFO challenge. Of those who become involved all became believers. This is well recorded. Today none of them will even look at the subject. Science is not what it was…

        Like yourself I tend to put lack of evidence on a back burner. If I can’t reference it I don’t publish it. I’m sure that like me you’ve noticed that much of the past evidence collected is now missing from the web.
        Regards

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        • M. Talmage Moorehead

          I agree with you 100% in what I think you’re implying. It seems to me that Western science operates in a politically restricted box where careers are routinely destroyed whenever anyone dares trespass beyond the fences of officially sanctioned dogma. At least those idiotic ground rules apply to every field of science I’ve studied so far, especially medicine (if you consider that science). There may be a niche somewhere that welcomes open-minded curiosity and genuine exploration, but I haven’t found it yet. 🙂

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